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2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #1: Beg for Bedard

Apr. 30, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: CantStopWontStop
Going to be interesting to see what Boston (if they are unfortunate and lose tonight) and Tampa do given their draft assets. For clarity, Boston and Tampa’s next pick in the first two rounds is 3 years from now, and in 3 years they only get 1 pick each.

They’re both very vulnerable with their RFAs as well. Tanner Jeannot and Trent Frederic are both at the age where they can force a walk to ufa, and neither have gotten a payday yet. From their perspective, signing a team friendly deal with term risks any future payday, as 5-8 years from now they’re in their 30s, and both play a role that typically doesn’t see longevity. Both skaters may be the target of offer sheets as well, although signing them is another story.

We haven’t had teams in the salary cap era spend so much into the future. There is a challenge when a team goes too far in either direction: it changes the development system and forces a future cap situation: The staff and roster slots for a team who drafts 3 firsts in one year is much different from a team who drafts 0 firsts in 3 years. The future cap pidgeon holes the organization one way or the other - whether you hoard draft picks or give them all away, allowing opposing gms leverage in any exchange. Considering that this is an expansionary period for the NHL, filling out a roster becomes increasingly difficult each new team.

I think anybody looking to predict trade proposals should look at these two teams RFAs and non-core skaters, with a chunk of the return being a future asset. The long term cost of not doing this is high and appears unmanageable.


I mean, both Boston and Tampa seem poised to some type of retool, Boston is probably losing, Bergeron, Krejci+ and Tampa is still in cap hell, at least for Tampa, they have the cups to show for it
Apr. 30, 2023 at 2:41 p.m.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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If Bergeron and Krejci retire, who plays center for Boston on their top 2 lines?
Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:54 p.m.
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If Bergeron and Krejci retire, who plays center for Boston on their top 2 lines?


Coyle and ??? Maybe Zacha
Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.
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Bergeron looks like he might be done, he’s very emotional, all of his teammates are hugging him, it might be over for him
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.
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Holy ****. This was the one series I barely watched because I figured it was a mere formality.

Oops.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:57 p.m.
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Quoting: kdawg32086
If Bergeron and Krejci retire, who plays center for Boston on their top 2 lines?


Scheifele and Mercer
Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:22 p.m.
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Scheifele and Mercer


And how in the world do they acquire these guys, especially Mercer? Their prospect pool might be the worst and they are running low on good picks.
Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.
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That gave me habs vs caps vibes from like 10 years ago
May 1, 2023 at 2:22 a.m.
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This summer calling it now

Connor Hellebuyck is either going to LA or Colorado via trade

Him going to either team would be terrifying
May 1, 2023 at 8:23 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
And how in the world do they acquire these guys, especially Mercer? Their prospect pool might be the worst and they are running low on good picks.


Lysell, 25 1st, 3rd for Mercer
Sway + other pieces for scheif

Definitely not realistic but oh well
May 1, 2023 at 8:25 a.m.
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Lysell, 25 1st, 3rd for Mercer
Sway + other pieces for scheif

Definitely not realistic but oh well


That’s not even remotely close for Mercer
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May 1, 2023 at 8:47 a.m.
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This is huge
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May 1, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
This summer calling it now

Connor Hellebuyck is either going to LA or Colorado via trade

Him going to either team would be terrifying


Colorado can't afford him without a large cap clearance.
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May 1, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
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HERTL (Game #411) - X / 8

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Dude isn’t a center


HERTL (Game #412) - 1 / 8

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lol first time i done this.
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May 1, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
HERTL (Game #412) - 1 / 8

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lol first time i done this.


HERTL (Game #412) - 1 / 8

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I don’t know why but it’s easy for me. Get first try once in a while. Such a fun game
May 1, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.
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Flames fans you are free
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May 1, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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Flames fans you are free


The next Washington head coach:
May 1, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
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Respect Mike Grier
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Who do we think raised their Draft Stock most at WJC U-18?


For me Perreault and Stenberg raised theirs most, but Leonard solidfied himself in my Top 8.

I was high on Stenberg for a while very happy about his tourney so talented and does so much.
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May 1, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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The next Washington head coach:


Bmac declines. He knows what he wants to target
May 1, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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Flames fans you are free


So they could’ve kept Treliving… Good thing they fired Suter though, they needed to do it
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May 1, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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What do the Sens have that makes celebrities want to have some stake? It’s the Sens, smaller market team, not exactly a glorified hockey history to celebrate
May 1, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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What do the Sens have that makes celebrities want to have some stake? It’s the Sens, smaller market team, not exactly a glorified hockey history to celebrate


Shane Pinto and Claude Giroux. That's all you really need in this world.
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May 1, 2023 at 1:10 p.m.
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Colorado can't afford him without a large cap clearance.


If WPG retains they can 1 year left 3.16mill
May 1, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
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Flyers win
 
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