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2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #1: Beg for Bedard

Apr. 17, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.
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Sucks that our goalie coach is gone too, but the bad man is gone

Now let's see if we can lock down a Claude Julien-type as our coach.


May I suggest to you an old portly gentleman looking to find the first plane ticket out of Washington? He'd deeeeeefffffinitely do well there developing your young players...
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.
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May I suggest to you an old portly gentleman looking to find the first plane ticket out of Washington? He'd deeeeeefffffinitely do well there developing your young players...


Connor McMichael is out of jail now,
Apr. 17, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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May I suggest to you an old portly gentleman looking to find the first plane ticket out of Washington? He'd deeeeeefffffinitely do well there developing your young players...


lmao no

Lavi is on my short list of "PLEASE DON'T HIRE", alongside Paul Maurice and Barry Melrose.
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 9:09 a.m.
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lmao no

Lavi is on my short list of "PLEASE DON'T HIRE", alongside Paul Maurice and Barry Melrose.


Going back to serious options for a second, maybe the Jackets take a chance on Scott Allen? Did well in Hershey and has consistently been in charge of some of the leagues best penalty kill numbers across his time in as an assistant in Arizona and Washington, he might be worth the risk for Columbus. Would hate to see him go but could be worthwhile for CBJ.

I was right about to suggest Scott Arniel since he was a decent assistant coach in Washington, but then I looked at his staff page and realized I had completely forgotten he was the head coach of the Jackets already.
Apr. 17, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.
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Going back to serious options for a second, maybe the Jackets take a chance on Scott Allen? Did well in Hershey and has consistently been in charge of some of the leagues best penalty kill numbers across his time in as an assistant in Arizona and Washington, he might be worth the risk for Columbus. Would hate to see him go but could be worthwhile for CBJ.

I was right about to suggest Scott Arniel since he was a decent assistant coach in Washington, but then I looked at his staff page and realized I had completely forgotten he was the head coach of the Jackets already.


If i were Jarmo i'd look into that.

(and probably look into the medical staff too, there is no reason that we should have been this injured this year)
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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Imagine Bedard is a bust in the NHL
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
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Don't think this was the outcome Flames fans wanted.
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.
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Well, goodbye Treliving.
Apr. 17, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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Don't think this was the outcome Flames fans wanted.


Yeah, I would've kept Treleving and fired Sutter, Sutter just isn't a long term coach options, he works best for a couple years, keep him too long and you'll get burned, like most coaches of his ilk
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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Don't think this was the outcome Flames fans wanted.


Knew it was gonna happen as why should Tree stay when ownership wont let him hire the guy he wants. Sutter is the owners guy. I feel Hextall or Burke gonna end up a flame GM as both guys fit the Sutter description
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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If im Flames players on expiring deals and I see the news Sutter still gonna be the coach I dont agree to extensions and demand a trade.

Flames owner ****ed them over
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.
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I propose a third, much dumber alternative to you: Elimination tournament between all 16 non-playoff teams. single elimination bracket to determine draft selection. It might be the worst possible idea, but imagine the chaos!


10/10 idea. Maybe turning it up to 11.

I would go to/watch those games.

Nhl would make way more $ than they do from the draft lottery, and teams who likely need it the most (bad teams don’t sell out as much) would get revenue streams.
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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10/10 idea. Maybe turning it up to 11.

I would go to/watch those games.

Nhl would make way more $ than they do from the draft lottery, and teams who likely need it the most (bad teams don’t sell out as much) would get revenue streams.


Yeah, to hell with these calls for adding a play-in, the nhl pre-draft lottery tournament chaos extravaganza (patent pending) would be way more exciting!
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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Someday I hope we get more behind the scenes about how most owners are making all the critical decisions entirely yet as fans we all think it’s the gm.

Imagine you own your favorite team. Are you really going to keep your hands off the roster? Hell no. I’m choosing everything, everything. Gm does exactly what I say or I get a new gm.

But we don’t want to upset the owners, and the league represents them, so there isn’t a means to fire them. We install a fall guy basically on every team.

Now the Flames don’t wanna buy out Sutter, so either treliving is the fall guy or he’s like I’m out this is wack, and the blame for everything this season should be at the owners doorstep.
Apr. 17, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.
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Yeah, to hell with these calls for adding a play-in, the nhl pre-draft lottery tournament chaos extravaganza (patent pending) would be way more exciting!


the idea of a play-in tournament a la the NBA is awful to begin with. There's a reason why it's always like the first thing i get rid of in MyLeague in 2K.
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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Talbot not returning to OTT next season really makes the Gustavsson trade look like one of the worst NHL trades seen.

As to me thats the kind of move that gets a GM fired

Cause look at what Gustavsson is doing rn for the Wild. That was someone who could have sparked something for OTT but Dorion rushed and now they got to pray Forsberg rebounds and either one of the kids rebound or sign some old guy to backup
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Apr. 17, 2023 at 11:51 p.m.
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A rough, incomplete list of possible GMs...

Jason Botterill, SEA Asst GM and former BUF GM
John Chayka, Former ARI GM
Peter Chiarelli, Former BOS/EDM GM
Mathieu Darche, TBL Asst GM
Meghan Duggan, NJD Director of PD

Paul Fenton, former MIN GM
John Ferguson Jr, ARI Asst GM
Chuck Fletcher, former PHI GM
Mike Garman, Coach/GM, Chicago Steel (USHL)
Ryan Hardy, TOR Asst GM

Brad Holland, EDM Asst GM
Eric Joyce, Former Scout and Asst GM
Jamie Langenbrunner, BOS Asst GM
Claude Lemieux, Agent, Former Player
Nicklas Lidstrom, Former Player

Dean Lombardi, Former LAK GM
Scott Mellanby, former MTL Director of PD
Chris O'Hearn, MIN Asst GM
Eddie Olczyk, TV Analyst and Former Player
Brad Pascall, CGY Asst GM

Ray Shero, former PIT/NJD GM
Dave Tallon, former GM CHI/FLA
Eric Tulsky, CAR Asst GM
Kevin Weekes, Former Player, Currently in Media
Scott White, DAL Asst GM
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 2:28 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Yeah, I would've kept Treleving and fired Sutter, Sutter just isn't a long term coach options, he works best for a couple years, keep him too long and you'll get burned, like most coaches of his ilk


You mean the Flames played with fire and got burned? There's a joke in there somewhere, but i'll have to dig through the ashes to find it.
Apr. 18, 2023 at 11:59 a.m.
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still a ways away but i'm hoping either anaheim or san jose land bedard
Apr. 18, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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still a ways away but i'm hoping either anaheim or san jose land bedard


Anaheim getting him would be terrifying

They got Zegras, McTavish and Gaucher already

Adding him would just make one of the best young C cores in the NHL

As its a 1-2-3 punch with Gauncher being that gritty 2-way 4th line C teams love
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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People just keep forgetting

Zebra jerseys = Bruins 3rd alternate.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
I propose a third, much dumber alternative to you: Elimination tournament between all 16 non-playoff teams. single elimination bracket to determine draft selection. It might be the worst possible idea, but imagine the chaos!


No. Seven game series...... but we skip the regulation and overtime and only play shootouts
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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No. Seven game series...... but we skip the regulation and overtime and only play shootouts


Kuzy wins us the 1oa pick
Apr. 18, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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A rough, incomplete list of possible GMs...

Jason Botterill, SEA Asst GM and former BUF GM
John Chayka, Former ARI GM
Peter Chiarelli, Former BOS/EDM GM
Mathieu Darche, TBL Asst GM
Meghan Duggan, NJD Director of PD

Paul Fenton, former MIN GM
John Ferguson Jr, ARI Asst GM
Chuck Fletcher, former PHI GM
Mike Garman, Coach/GM, Chicago Steel (USHL)
Ryan Hardy, TOR Asst GM

Brad Holland, EDM Asst GM
Eric Joyce, Former Scout and Asst GM
Jamie Langenbrunner, BOS Asst GM
Claude Lemieux, Agent, Former Player
Nicklas Lidstrom, Former Player

Dean Lombardi, Former LAK GM
Scott Mellanby, former MTL Director of PD
Chris O'Hearn, MIN Asst GM
Eddie Olczyk, TV Analyst and Former Player
Brad Pascall, CGY Asst GM

Ray Shero, former PIT/NJD GM
Dave Tallon, former GM CHI/FLA
Eric Tulsky, CAR Asst GM
Kevin Weekes, Former Player, Currently in Media
Scott White, DAL Asst GM

Brain Lawton
Apr. 18, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Don't think this was the outcome Flames fans wanted.


I'm not gonna lie. I am EXTREMELY interested to see who the new GM will "consider worth moving" and what types he'll prioritize acquiring - with input from the surviving coach, no doubt. I would love to get into a bone picking* session with the Flames if certain guys suddenly become expendable.

Triveling should have fired him a while back and saved himself the trouble.

* = the predator tearing off raw meat kind, not the angry complaining kind
 
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