I'm not one to immediately throw my hands up and say Dubas got fleeced. Is it a mid return? Yes. Were Dubas's hands kind of tied? Also yes.

Take good care of him, Canes. Forever Guentzelvania.

Like I said, he is "alright", but he isnt a guy like Nadeau, Morrow, Unger Sorum, or hell even Mukhanov. He'll be a solid complimentary center, but when you have Sidney Crosby and Evgenii Malkin, he wont be receiving a ton of ice time. He's going to be an alright guy but shouldnt have been a needle mover in this deal. He's a jack of all trades, master of none type of guy IMO

We would’ve given a first and Edstrom maybe. You telling me you wouldn’t take that over this deal dubas. Silly

Pens fans told me it would cost the Canucks Lekkerimaki + a 1st + more….

Great deal for Carolina. Gives them exactly what they’ve needed. This could be the move to finally get them to the finals

They could've got a 1st from New York. Oh, well.

They were probably offering a 2nd and Brisson lol

He is alright at everything but exceeds at nothing. Lucius is alright, but he isnt a good skater whatsoever and he physicality is non existent. Koivunen is the "big name" here. He is a good playmaker / scoring threat, but his absence doesnt even put a dent in Carolina's system

Yeah Dubas just got absolutely fleeced. Also tho come on, Vegas couldn't keep getting away with LTIR shenanigans.

JK...kinda

They have been in trouble all year. They need to admit that it is time to blow everything up with the current core and rebuild the entire team. They aren’t doing anything anymore no matter how good Crosby is still playing.

Dubas has Bunting back again. This time at 1.5x the term and almost 5x the cap hit

Thank you Pittsburgh for taking Dubas off our hands. You saved the Leafs franchise

Dubas accepted a cap friendly trade

Haha wait till tomorrow. Can’t wait to see what amazing player we get cuz of our LTIR shenanigans

Lol. Who's left?

I'm amazed by all the people claiming a low 1st would have been better than 3x2nd + Bunting.

It's not a homerun, but since Pittsburgh has NO prospect pool, I understand why Dubas went for a lot more quantity of a slightly less quality, plus a replacement top 6 winger still under contract for 2 1/4 seasons.

Jeez as a Pens fan I’m pissed. ****en Dubas. Jake N Bake I will miss you so much. One of my all time favourite players.

Rn I'm so happy the Blues didn't trade Buchnevich yet if that was the return.

-This may age terribly

Carolina has never wanted to give away a fifth than they do next years!

Carolina wins simply because they’re getting an elite winger. Now to break this down:

Positives: Two young forwards on ELCs who look like they could be in our lineup at some point next season is exactly what we wanted. We didn’t want Dman. We don’t need Dman. We have a ton of money tied up there and limited ice time for a kid. Outside of Yager we have NOTHING up front and these two immediately become the next best forward prospects. I’m uncertain on Chaz Lucius but the numbers don’t look too shabby so far for a college player.

Bad: A conditional 1st? Come on that should have been a no no. We should have a first out of this deal straight up. Bunting also is an overpaid mediocre player that Dubas has some weird thing for. We do not need these “scrappy Leafs”. That crap can stay with Treliving.

My first two thoughts:

1. Dubas tried to pressure teams into better offers by putting an early deadline on a deal and it backfired, reducing the competition.
2. Are GMs finally regaining their sanity and pushing back against rental prices?

With so many teams going all in the last couple of seasons and multiple GMs being faced with serious pick/prospect shortages, maybe the analysts are getting through with data about just how effective deadline additions are and what acceptable risk is with respect to cost/benefit.

Bad negotiating, buyer's market, or paradigm shift?

Waddell in February: we don't want rentals
Waddell in March:



But why Ponomarev though

Oh my dear God (not a believer at all just using the expression here) that Dubas got a Gudas's hit to the face to be fleeced like that.

What a great trade for CAR. Guentzel is a perfect fit there, they needed that cluch performer and that natural goal scorer. Waddell masterclass without having to give up neither one of there top prospect too.

I think it's good for PIT too honestly but they need to re-tool because those are the last few years of Crosby. The pens situation will be so interesting there seems to be a lot of conflicted things there.

Fair deal and wow.

Buch