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2021/2022 NHL Season Discussion Thread - #7

Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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I’m with you on this one, tough to tell who could really use Labanc with a 4.75 cap hit. Not an easy move, especially to a contender without taking salary back


SJS can eat up salary easily; its just hard when (I edited my comment with his confirmed lines per dobber) hes been buried on the 3rd-4th line with the expecation of carrying those lines. Which isn't Labancs strength. He isnt a driving piece - and there are ton of players like that in the league. Yet he's being asked to provide offence with 2 rookies, Nieto - Bonino (before Bonino got a single point in nearly 15 games), and Cogs a def. vet.

Labanc isn't a bonafide top 6 winger but hes a useful piece with 2nd line upside who just hasn't been put in a position to succeed. I do think Labanc could be moved in this month tho.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:55 p.m.
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Trotz, Vigneault, etc should be gone, no more old-style coaches, it's time for coaches who adjust to the new type of hockey


I agree - they play the guys they respect the most instead of players that give their teams the best chance to win. It’s bad for the sport. I would love if Trotz gets fired at the end of the season. The isles aren’t making the playoffs so might as well let Trotz unintentionally tank by playing Chara 20 min every game.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.
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SJS can eat up salary easily; its just hard when (I edited my comment with his confirmed lines per dobber) hes been buried on the 3rd-4th line with the expecation of carrying those lines. Which isn't Labancs strength. He isnt a driving piece - and there are ton of players like that in the league. Yet he's being asked to provide offence with 2 rookies, Nieto - Bonino (before Bonino got a single point in nearly 15 games), and Cogs a def. vet.

Labanc isn't a bonafide top 6 winger but hes a useful piece with 2nd line upside who just hasn't been put in a position to succeed. I do think Labanc could be moved in this month tho.


Oh no doubt, which team I could see him on I'm having trouble seeing. Rangers sure but they would need retention as next year gets real tight for them against the cap.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
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Perlini and harrington on waivers

Man did the tides turn on Perlini fast
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.
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Hopefully they let us take him with us, Calgary could use a 20 goal right shot winger smile
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
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Hopefully they let us take him with us, Calgary could use a 20 goal right shot winger smile


🕯
🕯 🕯
🕯 Trade 🕯

🕯 Labanc for   🕯

🕯 Zary 🕯
🕯 🕯
🕯

edit: summoning circle failed, major L... this may be a sign
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.
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🕯
🕯 🕯
🕯 Trade 🕯

🕯 Labanc for   🕯

🕯 Zary 🕯
🕯 🕯
🕯

edit: summoning circle failed, major L... this may be a sign


When i quote you summoning circle works, but when you post it, the candles all move to the left
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
Hopefully they let us take him with us, Calgary could use a 20 goal right shot winger smile


Or the caps 😉
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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🕯
🕯 🕯
🕯 Trade 🕯

🕯 Labanc for   🕯

🕯 Zary 🕯
🕯 🕯
🕯

edit: summoning circle failed, major L... this may be a sign

Lol I don’t think Calgary is gonna trade Zary unless we get a top six centre with term (Hertl???). He’s poised to be our long term 2C, which is a pretty big hole for us. But our 1st this year is fair game (although is Labanc worth that right now? His contract is kinda big for the impact he’s providing, presumably this would be a kind of buy low).
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:46 p.m.
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TheAthletic's Team Canada rising and falling stocks

Rising
Aaron Ekblad
Carter Hart
Zach Hyman
Andrew Mangiapane
Morgan Rielly
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares

Falling
Mathew Barzal
Jakob Chychrun
Dougie Hamilton
Bo Horvat
Darcy Kuemper
Mark Scheifele
Tyler Seguin
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.
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TheAthletic's Team Canada rising and falling stocks

Rising
Aaron Ekblad
Carter Hart
Zach Hyman
Andrew Mangiapane
Morgan Rielly
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares

Falling
Mathew Barzal
Jakob Chychrun
Dougie Hamilton
Bo Horvat
Darcy Kuemper
Mark Scheifele
Tyler Seguin


Is Tom Wilson rising in your opinion
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.
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Is Tom Wilson rising in your opinion


Probably, but I don't think he was even in Team Canada's 50-player list
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.
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Probably, but I don't think he was even in Team Canada's 50-player list

He was
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.
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He was


Where did you see this?
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:53 p.m.
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TheAthletic's Team Canada rising and falling stocks

Rising
Aaron Ekblad
Carter Hart
Zach Hyman
Andrew Mangiapane
Morgan Rielly
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares

Falling
Mathew Barzal
Jakob Chychrun
Dougie Hamilton
Bo Horvat
Darcy Kuemper
Mark Scheifele
Tyler Seguin


If Price isn't available I don't see how they leave off Kuemper. He's got the most international experience out of all Canadian goaltenders outside of Price and MAF.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.
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If Price isn't available I don't see how they leave off Kuemper. He's got the most international experience out of all Canadian goaltenders outside of Price and MAF.


Even if Price was available he'd pull a Lehner and rejects imo
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.
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Where did you see this?


Here is the link
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
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Even if Price was available he'd pull a Lehner and rejects imo


Talbot and Jarry going to take over here with options we have lol
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.
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Talbot and Jarry going to take over here with options we have lol


Goaltending will be our problem this year yep, no true good goalie
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
Lol I don’t think Calgary is gonna trade Zary unless we get a top six centre with term (Hertl???). He’s poised to be our long term 2C, which is a pretty big hole for us. But our 1st this year is fair game (although is Labanc worth that right now? His contract is kinda big for the impact he’s providing, presumably this would be a kind of buy low).


oh if CGY trades Zary for Labanc theyre insane hahaha, I'd take a 2nd and 3rd + a kicker this year tbh - and yeah sure we could "lose the trade" (Labanc puts up 50pts example) but hes never getting that here with the new defense first system Bob has in place and being relegated to the 4th line

Quoting: SevenLeg
TheAthletic's Team Canada rising and falling stocks

Rising
Aaron Ekblad
Carter Hart
Zach Hyman
Andrew Mangiapane
Morgan Rielly
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares

Falling
Mathew Barzal
Jakob Chychrun
Dougie Hamilton
Bo Horvat
Darcy Kuemper
Mark Scheifele
Tyler Seguin


Barzal's falling is tough to watch, thats gonna eat him up I'd say in the coming months if he keeps trending down
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
TheAthletic's Team Canada rising and falling stocks

Rising
Aaron Ekblad
Carter Hart
Zach Hyman
Andrew Mangiapane
Morgan Rielly
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares

Falling
Mathew Barzal
Jakob Chychrun
Dougie Hamilton
Bo Horvat
Darcy Kuemper
Mark Scheifele
Tyler Seguin

Even with former top 15 F locks Barzal and Scheifele falling off a cliff (although Scheifele has started to rebound in the last week), I don’t think the fringe guys like Mangiapane/Hyman/Wilson/Cirelli have that good of a chance. Like the best they could grab (without injuries) is 14th forward imo.

Marner-McDavid-MacKinnon
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Huberdeau-Point-Stamkos
Tavares-ROR-Stone
Couturier, spare

D should be:
Pelech-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Weegar-Ekblad

But I wouldn’t be surprised to see like, Chabot over Weegar. Hamilton might have slipped a little below Ekblad, probably the front runner for 7th D still though.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 6:01 p.m.
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Holy f*ck, Marner 3-4 weeks. So much for 'not concerned about him missing significant time'.

Neal Pionk is to blame for this. I don't know how, but I'm sure of it...
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 6:18 p.m.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.
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Isles are going to be shutout by the sens tonight
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