Buffalo cries itself to sleep from laughter. This makes the Sabres worse now and in the future.

Buffalo easy pass, horrible

I disagree. Please explain.

This is hilariously bad for Buffalo

Ask Billy Guerin, he'll explain if you don't understand.

A pending UFA, a 26 year old goal scorer in his prime, and a 4th line center? Buffalo is rebuilding...why on earth would they trade their next captain/1C/a first/+? They aren't trying to contend right now. Value isn't awful it just is a terrible fit

Fiala is the best player in this trade. Dumba is, at worst, the 3rd best. The 1st is negotiable. Portillo is a college goalie… Laakson’s ceiling is a 3rd pairing d-man with a floor of a career AHLer. What is do laughable???

Fiala and Tuch are comparable players, but Tuch has a muuuuuchhhh better contract situation.

Dumba is a pending UFA, but the Risto and Lindholm return (1st 2nd and depth piece) justifies the 1st and OL.

Jost is probably worth the goalie prospect.

So at the end of the day, Buffalo holds the balance of Dylan Cozens and the difference in contract situation between Fiala/Tuch. Easy no

Fiala is a MUCH better playet than Tuch…like $2-3million per better.

Tuch has been unreal in Buffalo on and off the ice. Cozens follows suit with the same mentality. Top 15 pick in a deep draft with other assets that aren't worth it for the sabres to give up for a ufa dman and a goal scorer that I'm not sure is a fit for the sabres. Trade have to fit for both teams and this makes no sense for Buffalo.

That dial tone your hearing though..

Fiala = Cozens or Kreb.
Dumba = Tuch and a late 1st/early 2nd.
Jost is worth more than Laaksonen.

ASSUME Dumba and Fiala come with extensions!

Tuch and a 1st for Dumba is laughably bad. Tuch isn't going anywhere anyways so it doesn't matter. He's one of the only guys in the league that wants to be in buffalo. No shot a rebuilder like BUF is giving Cozens or Krebs for Fiala. Just doesn't make sense

I'd easily take Cozens over Fiala, Krebs is debatable, that Dumba valuation is wayy too high, Tuch's pretty much Fiala but with term, and Jost at this point looks like a career 3rd liner, he's not worth too much

I’d rather have Cozens. Points wise starting their careers is very similar, Cozens costs less, plays center, and does a very good job defending top line centers when asked to. He’s a budding star in the making. Dumba isn’t worth Tuch and a first, that’s just nuts. And I’d rather keep Laaks but I guess the value is fine. But Buffalo adds a high end Goalie prospect (one of the best in the NCAA right now) for ****s and giggles huh? Hope this explains why it’s a hard no.

Fiala is a more skilled player, but Tuch is on a great contract so at best that's a wash swapping them. Buffalo taking on more cap to fill essentially the same roster spot doesn't make much sense imo.

Dumba has a year left and he likely wouldn't give Buffalo a discount while maybe he gives Guerin a discount if he wants to stay in Minnesota (because he's probably going to have to if he wants to stay). He just wouldn't have the value to Buffalo and giving up Cozens wouldn't make sense since they're probably going to want Cozens/Krebs to be their top 6 centers. Maybe Jost figures it out in Minnesota, but nothing about him to date suggests Buffalo could see him as being a top 6 center to replace Cozens. If Minnesota is lucky he can take on a 3C role by the time Hartman's deal is up.

I'd be pretty pissed if I were a Buffalo fan and they made this trade.

OP is obviously drunk

Ok I have laughed quite hard at the idea that Tuch is just as good as fiala being floated around here. tuch is a completely satisfactory 2nd line wing and on a very good contract, but anyone who wouldn’t trade Tuch and a 1st top 10 protected for fiala is ridiculous.

I think jost needs a situation where he isn’t buried on the depth charts. He might get a chance to play with fiala and boldy this season, but I think being somewhere like Buffalo or Columbus would be good for his career to be the 2c he was projected at when drafted.

Dumba would be an excellent mentor/culture guy for buffalo and the type of vet buffalo should want with such a talented young core.

Except his thought was Cozens for Fiala (needing a new contract, and Cozens has had a pretty similar start to his career as Fiala) Tuch and a first for Dumba (bad for Buffalo, come on) and two higher end prospects for a guy who was just traded straight up for Nico Sturm (again bad for Buffalo). Fiala is gonna get paid by someone, probably more than he should if it’s a place like Buffalo. So that’s why Tuch is just as valuable as Fiala to Buffalo.

I have called the police

Fiala and dumba for tuch and cozens is probably not enough alone yet adding all the others

As someone who has been in love with Tuch since I first saw him play in the league, he's on another level with the added role/responsibility he's taken on in Buffalo. He's not the kid you guys drafted or the great 3rd liner you saw on Vegas for 4 years right now.

And yeah I'll put emphasis on right now. it could be adrenaline/momentum/hot streak, but there's no way they can trade Tuch for Fiala, even straight up right now

Okay, so, Cozens is more valuable then Fiala because he is a young center on an ELC that has the makings up a captain and an insane player. He might be like a Crosby with the way that he works and leads. So already there Minnesota is in negative value, then Tuch is more valuable then Dumba because Dumba probably won't resign in Buffalo and Tuch is insane right now and this might be his future, plus he loves playing in Buffalo cause he grew up around there. You're in a net negative again so you mean to say that Jost (the guy that was just traded for Sturm) is worth Erik Portillo, Oskari Laaksonen, and a relatively high first, man that is insane.

Jost wouldn't get that chance in buffalo. We have cozens, Krebs, and Thompson that are likely all middle 6 centers. We are missing a #1, but we likely have to draft one.