oh boy

Even if he does *exactly* what Hagel did, I would argue that he would get a slightly lesser package as a player 2 years older than Hagel - Hagel's current deal ends with him still an RFA, and if I'm not mistaken, Pitlick signing a 3 year deal would end with him being a UFA. Not a huge difference, but I could see a team being hesitant to throw in that extra 1st without the RFA rights that Hagel has.

We had Hagel in our yard. I guess the previous admin didn't see the upside. Granted it was in 2018 and his game probably hadn't matured to where it is today.

As for Pitlick, I think he's a decent player, but he has flaws. He's an offensive bottom-6 guy at the moment. Who knows? Maybe his game progresses similarly, but I'm not ready to bet on it.

Sure. All he would need to do is play more, score more, play physical more, play both special teams more and lose a few years of age. He's so close....

I'm speechless. Habs fans at it again.

Who is gonna tell him

Did you read the part where i said he would play with Suzuki and Caufield? And also the part where i said he would have to produce 20+ goals by TDL like Hagel did?

Hagel isn't physical at all. Pitlick could play PP and PK next year. As for age, he's not 30, 2 years won't make a difference.

Seeing other comments, i don't think my post is ridiculous. Using sarcasm as an answer show me what kind of person you are.

Sorry man. Your proposal is ridiculous.

Let’s avoid analyzing someone’s character based on a forum post. With it all said and done, rem has a lot of work to do in order to gain that kind of return. And teams will see who he is playing with along with the playing time. If he’s playing 20 minutes with the top line and producing a.8 ppg clip, they can anticipate a drop off in production in a lower role in a bottom 6. Is it possible that he returns that kind of package? yes. Is it likely, not really.

I like your answer. That's what i was thinking too. Thanks for the output.

I won't really bother about the other answers, as they mostly seem to be Habs haters. Always the same names coming up.

They're just looking for the Habs logo to go **** on the post, even if the idea is possible. That's why i don't post many ACGM anymore.

Hagel played with Kane and DeBrincat

Also, i don't think me telling him he's wrong for using sarcasm is worst than him making fun of my proposition.

It does deserve to be made fun of though, to be fair.

Hagel got what he got because he was younger, overplaying the expectations on his back by a few country miles, but most importantly, because of the term and RFA status when he is due for his next contract. Not to mention, if it wasn’t Tampa that acquired him, it would not have been as much as well since Tampa was going all in for the 3peat. REM looks like a good player, but he won’t get close to returning what Hagel returned. Too many moving variables without any concrete evidence that Rem will keep his scoring up, even with playing with Suzuki and Caufield. Suzuki and Caufield are great together, but they aren’t the duo of DeCat and Kane.

So asking for the same package Hagel got is ridiculous, with all the moving variables and also unknown circumstances coming next season.

That’s what happens here, you aren’t the only one who experiences your propositions being laughed at. If you make a dumb proposition you get chewed out, and even if you make a good one, not everybody is going to like it. And yes, Habs fans do get targeted in ACGMs, but it is for making stupid propositions. I can’t tell you how many times Petry, Hoffman, and Drouin trades get screamed at, because they are not reasonable in the slightest. And it’s not just Habs, the Leafs, Canucks, and Oilers fanbases are always big offenders of this. Each fanbase is an offender in their own right, but you are one of the big 4 offending fanbases on here. So there is always going to be that bias. And just because you get judged harshly doesn’t mean you should retaliate. And when has sarcasm told you about what kind of person they are?

Hagel got a big return cause he was/is on a fantastic contract during the flat cap years and is still an RFA when it expires. Pitlick is a worse player, older, likely wont be on as good of a contract (even if he was signed to the same deal as Hagel he would expire as a UFA), and would be traded after the cap started to rise again (slightly less need for ultra cheap contracts). I dont think Hagel is a good comparable here at all tbh

Yikes...

To be fair, people said that about habs fans when talking about the chiarot/Toffoli/Lehkonen trades before they happened and hab fans were right on all 3 so…..

We just calling anyone the next hagel yet?

Well OP did give a hypothetical scenario of putting him with Suzuki and Caufield and IF he scores 20 goals. Not impossible considering he got 15 in 66 games this year

WTF Pitlick was picked up on waivers a couple months ago.


Such a ridiculous idea is a good way to make a fool of yourself.

Who played center. All three of them are wingers???? So no he did not play with them.

No but I think saying the character of the person is called into question is worse than making jokes about an outlandish Take on a hockey forum. Have a nice day.

I feel like two firsts for a guy who wasn't qualified is a pretty hefty price

Oh boy did this age well