No need to spend assets on Lindholm. Sabres have their center core.

Boqvist>joker
Sillinger>krebs
Cbj picks > buff picks (probably)

Way to much for cbj. That is an insane overpay at this point tbh. Even if we are fighting for a playoff spot.

BUF is not a perfect fit. Lindholm is too old for that team and center isn't a need.

If all were options…

1. CBJ
2. BUF
3. WAS

I do think you need to taper your expectations... Lindholm is a meh 2C...

meh 2c lindholm? i dont even want to know what that makes of the canes 2c....

I like Lindholm but this seems like a lot. I see him as a good 2C

Make your own mind up, I think I'd rather have KK though

Well that’s the most absurd thing I’ve heard all day. Thanks for the laugh.

I didn’t pick the Canes because I legitimately don’t care for what they would have to offer.

Feel free to look at the chart I posted from Evolving Hockey that shows him as a meh 2C and that might be generous.

If the chart convinced you a draft bust like KK is better than Lindholm I’m good ignoring that chart.

yeah, kk was pretty much getting 4th line minutes during that sample more than anytning. ask anyone on who is not a canes fan and they would go for lindholm, thats all you need to know about bias.

But he found a chart!

No way are non playoff teams trading so much for a rental.

all these trades are overpays. Y'all need to lower your expectations of the return. At very least remove a second rounder from each trade. That wont fix them, but at least make them a little more realistic.

So what I see for the Sabres is- Thompson as an offensive center, he produces offense like a #1 center, and his defense is, let's just say the best defense is a good offense. Cozens put up a career year offensively, his two way game was not great, but I expect him to be a 200 foot center, and if his linemates stay peterka and Quinn, they should a very good two way line. We don't have a third line center right now, I'm not at all a mittelstadt believer, and Krebs is still progressing, still raw, but our best internal look at a #3 center. Lindholm is on a great deal, but it's running out. That's two firsts, a second, and whatever you value jokiharju at, for one year of lindholm, and the Sabres have first round center prospects in savoie, kulich, and ostlund all coming. It's too much for a rental, and assuming his next contract is gonna be 7 years at 50 million or so (I have no idea, this sounds close) it would be better for somebody else to get him. I'm thinking Minnesota, LA, maybe montreal, somebody who could really use lindholm and might be more interested in signing him long term, even if it would require cap gymnastics.

We wouldn’t trade him unless it’s near the deadline and these teams wouldn’t make the trade unless they were going to a playoff spot.

Completely understand. Buffalo is my favourite eastern team. I think he would be absolutely dynamic if you move Cozens to LW and bring Quick back on his RW. He’d also be the best defensive forward on the team by some distance. Resigning him would be possible but he’s going to want probably 8 plus.

You want last year when KK was Carolina's 2C?

i actually dont want any!

A rental doesn’t get that much. Take out the players on the first two and a first plus second plus maybe a decent prospect gets it done.

From cbj if we are in a playoff spot.
First third cuelemans.

Kk is better than they are admitting. Not surprised as habs fans are probably alittle upset as burger van screwed them over moving those picks for a dud in Dvorak.

But you have to admit lindholm is better than a “meh” 2c. He’s a 2c on a cup team (top4 team) and a 1 c on a meh team (a top 20 center league wide).

Then you clearly haven’t watched much of Lindholm since he left Carolina. Calling him a “meh” 2C makes you sound like a fool, he’s easily a top 25 centre in the league and would be the 1c on at least a dozen other teams

He's a lower end 1C. But ACGM does collectively overrate his value. He turns 30 this season so giving a good- not great- player a massive long term deal makes no sense for ascending teams like BUF. BOS or WSH just trying to get a few good years left sure.