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Anaheim Ducks signed Trevor Zegras (3 Years / $5,750,000 AAV)

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Oct. 2, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
3x$6M was a consensus on a short term deal. Congrats on Verbeek to piss off his star player to save 75k.


Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous
I voted no, just because of the steps Verbeek took to get there


If he was pissed, he would have demanded a trade out of town and not signed a deal. The 3-4 million rumor was more than likely a tactical leak by Brisson.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.
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Amazing it took them this long to throw less than 6 million dollars at Trevor Zegras but had absolutely no issue immediately offering a 34 year old, inevitable regression bound Alex Killorn 6.25 over the next 4 lol


Killorn is 2x Stanley Cup winner that they needed to overpay to come play in ANA as a leader for a young-rebuilding team. Zegras has had two great seasons.

You cannot teach Killorn's experience: he's played 40 playoff games (140) less than Zegras has games total (180).

Both are good contracts.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Pretty good deal. A little too little term tho imo.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 3:15 p.m.
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Do people here really have no idea that it's in fact Zegras agent who insisted on a bridge deal? It was mentioned multiple times.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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I mean it’s decent. At least he will play


Don’t like the deal??
Oct. 2, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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Kinda' puts all those 8 mill contracts for other teams' players after they only play a year or so, in place.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 4:02 p.m.
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In 3 years time when he hits the 100 point mark in a season, the Ducks will have to double that contract just to keep him.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
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@Campabee was I right when I said 3 yrs yesterday?! Now we can stop !
Oct. 2, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
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$5.75m over three years is solid deal for both sides.

What is especially good for Anaheim….He didn’t go for the high base in year three (that would have triggered high QO in 2026). They will have flexibility to sign him to one QO before locking him up long-term.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
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Campabee was I right when I said 3 yrs yesterday?! Now we can stop !


A three year deal has been the worst kept secret out there. It was known that both sides had agreed to three years two weeks ago but we're just working out AAV
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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It's definitely a fair deal for both parties.

But when I look at other forwards drafted in 2019:

$7,000,000 x 7 would've been better for Anaheim (Boldy contract)
$7,100,000 x 7 would've been better for Anaheim (Cozens contract)
$7,800,000 x 8 would've been better for Anaheim (Caufield contract)
$8,000,000 x 8 would've been better for Anaheim (J. Hughes contract)
$3,300,000 x 4 would've been better for Anaheim (Kirby Dach contract)
$2,900,000 x 4 would've been better for Anaheim (A. Newhook contract)

Just kidding about the last two (they obvi aren't Zegras comparables).
Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous
I voted no, just because of the steps Verbeek took to get there


That's a fair vote. I regret voting yes after reading your reasoning.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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He scored 65 points and his on-ice goal differential was 5.2 ABOVE expected. He's underpaid and he's still an RFA after this. I suspect he will want to get out of Anaheim after being treated like this.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
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He scored 65 points and his on-ice goal differential was 5.2 ABOVE expected. He's underpaid and he's still an RFA after this. I suspect he will want to get out of Anaheim after being treated like this.


Again with the "he's been insulted, he's been treated like crap" stuff. You know why they're called rumours? Because there's no evidence. If he was really THAT pissed he wouldn't have signed with the team and would have held out until he was traded. Or he could have demanded a 4 year contract to exit as a UFA.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.
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I think this is a loss for Anaheim. Sure, they got him signed for 3 years at what is likely to turn out to be a bargain price, but during those 3 years they’re probably going to be neither good nor cap challenged. It’s a low-risk signing in that it’s unlikely he’ll be overpaid by the end of it, but depending on their rebuild plan and how many RFA years he has left after this contract, there’s a very real risk that just as the team is ready to challenge for a playoff spot, they’ll either have to break the bank to keep him, making it more difficult to improve the team by bringing in other players, or they’ll have to trade him for futures or lesser players to avoid him fast-tracking his way to unrestricted free agency. (CapFriendly shows him not being arbitration eligible after this contract, so maybe he'll still owe them a couple more years before he can leave, in which case it might not be as bad as I think. The longer he has to stay, the more likely the team will be good enough for him to want to stay longer.)

For those reasons, I assume it’s Zegras who wanted the shorter term, not the team. I think most players are willing to give up future potential earnings for the security of a long-term contract, but I guess Zegras is one of those who’d rather do the opposite – give up short-term earnings for the chance at a bigger payoff later – also known as betting on yourself. It'll be interesting to see what they end up doing with Drysdale. A 1 or 2-year "wait and see" deal might be better for him after the injury that kept him out most of last season.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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Good deal for the front office for the AAV, great deal for Trevor for the term, even greater deal for his teammates for getting him on the ice, and even greater deal for us Anaheim CF fans so now the moronic ACGMs trading him for nonsensical returns will stop.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 10:31 p.m.
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It's about dang time
Oct. 3, 2023 at 12:00 a.m.
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I voted yes.
BUT
TZ has to show he can be "more" to get more ($$ & term).

Don't watch them alot (even their own WAGs don't) - but when I have, he's likely the worst player without the puck in the entire league (read: soft)
He's offense 110% - and that will not get him paid on a bottom-feeder unless he's OVI 2.0...
Oct. 3, 2023 at 12:14 a.m.
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Fair price for a 1st line Left Wing with his skills; well below market if he is their 1C of the future. Perhaps Verbeek didn't want to commit to paying him as a 1C?

Anyways, they have 3 years to figure it out but its a gamble for both sides
Oct. 3, 2023 at 6:29 a.m.
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
In 3 years time when he hits the 100 point mark in a season, the Ducks will have to double that contract just to keep him.


He will never be a 100p per season player, max 85-90p
Oct. 3, 2023 at 9:36 a.m.
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Quoting: VaderJeff
It's finally over
Anyway why is he so underpaid comparing to other players in team?
Or is he waiting for 8x12M after?


Because, while he's undeniably talented, he hasn't actually done anything yet.
Oct. 3, 2023 at 10:36 a.m.
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Trevor Zegras will be restricted after this deal finishes.

Maybe an 8 year extension follows.

I would find it hard to believe he wouldn't want to be in Anaheim, with a team that has already assembled the likes of:

Troy Terry
Mason McTavish
Leo Carlsson
Jamie Drysdale
Pavel Mintyukov
Tristan Luneau
Olen Zellweger
Nathan Gaucher

There are too many TOP prospects and solid, quality players on this team and in this system for them to not be a force soon.
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Oct. 3, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
Great signing for ANA, going to assume that final year is going to have a high QO. Extrapolating his numbers, if he averages ~80 points per year over the next 3 years, he’d be in similar contract comparable to PLD, Barzal, and Point. Next contract is probably going to look like 9.5M - 11M on an 8 year deal if his progression continues. If he stays as a 60 point player, going to come out cheaper but such is life.


QO doesnt work like this anymore since last year. Old contracts have grand father clause, but new ones the QO is just the cap hit.
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Oct. 3, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: FireShero
Killorn is 2x Stanley Cup winner that they needed to overpay to come play in ANA as a leader for a young-rebuilding team. Zegras has had two great seasons.

You cannot teach Killorn's experience: he's played 40 playoff games (140) less than Zegras has games total (180).

Both are good contracts.


''zegras has 2 great season''. killorn has one.
Oct. 3, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
$5.75m over three years is solid deal for both sides.

What is especially good for Anaheim….He didn’t go for the high base in year three (that would have triggered high QO in 2026). They will have flexibility to sign him to one QO before locking him up long-term.


didnt they change the QO rule last year?
 
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