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Boston Bruins signed Charlie McAvoy (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

Was this a good signing?
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
#26
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Owners in pandemic: WE'RE LOSING MONEY WE NEED MORE FROM ESCROW.

Owners the minute fans are allowed back inside the arenas: You want 9 million per? Oh you too, sure no problem.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
I guess what I find most interesting about this signing is that he's likely their 4th...ish best player making BY FAR the most money.


There's a case for Marchand. He's #2 at worst.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:28 a.m.
#28
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Edited Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
Quoting: bhavikp27
There's a case for Marchand. He's #2 at worst.


NO Bergeron? I'm not suggesting anything negative by my interest. I just love Bergeron's game. practically a full PPG #2 Selke 63% at the dot...I get he's 36, but man oh man. I'd likely take that vs ANY Dman in the league.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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I don't understand this thread. Do people not know he's good?
He's a top 5 dman in the league and he should get paid like it.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:44 a.m.
#30
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holy cow what an overpay
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:44 a.m.
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Easily a top 5 RHD in the game. He is and will be worth his money. Huge win for Boston. Makar and Fox have yet to prove. Especially in terms of playing in their own zone. Especially, considering the fact that this is a third contract for Charlie.

Huge win for Boston.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.
#32
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Quoting: Rangsey
I don't understand this thread. Do people not know he's good?
He's a top 5 dman in the league and he should get paid like it.


People just look at the points and assume he's a tier below Fox and Makar, when in reality he's just as good. He was held off of the Bruins' PP1 unit for years by Krug so he didn't have the opportunities to rack up points, despite being an elite two-way defenseman at even strength and an excellent penalty killer.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:48 a.m.
#33
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Whoa.

Bruins' no $7M+ players policy has been tarnished.

Think McAvoy's worth it. That guy is one of the best D-men on the planet.

Jones and Nurse contracts just look worse and worse every day.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
Easily a top 5 RHD in the game. He is and will be worth his money. Huge win for Boston. Makar and Fox have yet to prove. Especially in terms of playing in their own zone. Especially, considering the fact that this is a third contract for Charlie.

Huge win for Boston.


Fox is excellent in his own zone, and Makar isn't a sieve either. Just because they rack up points and are under 6'0" doesn't mean they're poor defensively.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
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Avs locked up Makar for less and I don't think anyone will try to claim McAvoy as a better player, our will be a better player at any point over next 8 seasons. Great term. $1M too much AAV.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
NO Bergeron? I'm not suggesting anything negative by my interest. I just love Bergeron's game. practically a full PPG #2 Selke 63% at the dot...I get he's 36, but man oh man. I'd likely take that vs ANY Dman in the league.


Well, they're all close and you can't go wrong but I'd rank McAvoy higher.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
I guess what I find most interesting about this signing is that he's likely their 4th...ish best player making BY FAR the most money.


Depends on how you look at it. If you take Bergerons CH% when he signed his deal 8yrs ago, it comes out to $8.7 million. It's tough to compare money for a guy who signed today vs a guy from 3,5,8 years ago.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
Fox is excellent in his own zone, and Makar isn't a sieve either. Just because they rack up points and are under 6'0" doesn't mean they're poor defensively.


Yeah, but it’s a third contract for McAvoy after taking a huge paycut in favor of his club on the second one. And he has more pro experience under his belt.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.
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For folks comparing this to Makar's contract, it's an unfair comparison. This contract buys out WAY more UFA seasons. Makar's deal bought out two UFA years; McAvoy's deal buys out 5 UFA seasons, IIRC. It's a very good contract, especially when you consider that Werenski got more for less years!
Oct. 15, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
#40
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So um what happened to Bruins and good contracts lul

Was honestly expecting him to make slightly above Pulock not get a Jones deal lul
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
So um what happened to Bruins and good contracts lul

Was honestly expecting him to make slightly above Pulock not get a Jones deal lul


Except that McAvoy is actually worth a Seth Jones pact. Even if you toss analytics in the toilet, Chahlie Mac will be far younger when his deal expires, meaning that the deal will be throughout his prime defensive years.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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As a Leafs fan, it gives me a lot of joy knowing that the Bruins are no longer massively underpaying their star players.

Maybe now they’ll have the same cap problems as the rest of the league
Oct. 15, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
So um what happened to Bruins and good contracts lul

Was honestly expecting him to make slightly above Pulock not get a Jones deal lul


It is a good contract. Pulock is great but not at McAvoy's level.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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People are saying this is an over payment but imo CM is a top 5 dman in the league. He's a very complete defender... hard to name any defense men that i would rather have on my team over him
Oct. 15, 2021 at 12:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
I don't understand this thread. Do people not know he's good?
He's a top 5 dman in the league and he should get paid like it.


i said the same thing... i can maybe name 3 -4 guys in the entire league that are comparable defensemen.... not even better just comparable
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 1:05 p.m.
#46
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This seems reasonable
Oct. 15, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.
#47
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One of the best d men currently in the league. Will be contending with Makar for years to come as the top. I see nothing to complain about here.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
I don't understand this thread. Do people not know he's good?
He's a top 5 dman in the league and he should get paid like it.


The salary cap has really screwed up how people view players. Everyone expects their elite players to take discounts.
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Oct. 15, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
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It's probably not a terrible contract but I'm surprised he was able to get this much without being a good pp qb. His es scoring is good, but his pp production is poor which keeps him in the 30-45 point range and generally people get paid more for offense than other.

I would have expected more in the Ekblad/Heiskanen range of about 10.5% of cap ceiling than the 11.5% he got.

I think mid to high 8s would have been a good deal, so this one is okay towards an over pay that isn't to big a deal because it's not a crazy overpay and he is a damn good player.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 1:50 p.m.
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Fair contract, don’t know why it’s getting hate
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