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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #12: Judgement Day Approaches

Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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Should have dealt Chychrun at the draft last summer or this summer if that's all you were going to get. Pointless to hold on to him and then cut bait for that.
Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
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I think they try and trade Chabot in 2 years anyways .
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quick leaving tHe kings is like Martin Broder going to the blues
Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
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I think they try and trade Chabot in 2 years anyways .


that would be dumb
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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I think they try and trade Chabot in 2 years anyways .


Remember we bs'd on that last fall (re: Sanderson) w/ Chabot out for player/asset replenishment yadda yadda...
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
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that would be dumb


Not really . Chychrun is younger and can be signed from ages 26 to 34. Chabot is signed thru age 31 at 8 mill and soft defensiclry
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
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Through the Portillo deal, here is the net sum of 2023 pick values by team (see values in chart). Lottery pick values are weighted by lottery odds.

CHI: 22.6
CBJ: 21.7
ARI: 20.6
ANA: 18.6
DET: 18.2

MTL: 17.8
SJS: 17.3
STL: 16.0
NSH: 15.3
BUF: 11.5

VAN: 11.1
PHI: 10.6
SEA: 9.5
WAS: 9.5
PIT: 7.3

CGY: 7.1
CAR: 6.1
MIN: 5.8
WPG: 5.4
VGK: 4.9

NYR: 4.5
COL: 4.2
TOR: 3.1
FLA: 2.7
LAK: 2.7

EDM: 2.6
NYI: 2.5
DAL: 2.1
NJD: 1.9
BOS: 1.2

OTT: 1.2
TBL: 0.5

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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
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“Very clear now OTT not needing ARIZ to take money swung Chychrun in their favour”

-Friedman

How poor is this team?? I mean, damn.

If I’m Clayton Keller or Nick schmaltz I’m keeping a bag packed

(Or Lawson crouse plz thx)
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Not really . Chychrun is younger and can be signed from ages 26 to 34. Chabot is signed thru age 31 at 8 mill and soft defensiclry


Quoting: csick
Not really . Chychrun is younger and can be signed from ages 26 to 34. Chabot is signed thru age 31 at 8 mill and soft defensiclry


Chychrun is 1 year younger , and the contract will start in his age 27 season. Chabot is a top 5 offensive defenseman in the league and while defense isn't his strength , he's far from a liability. His contract is under market value and is signed through most of his prime years. He's a #1 defenseman, Chycvhrun is more of a #2 guy.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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I'm sorry what? How the hell did teams not pay up for Chych, like Chychrun blows Orlov, Gavrikov, Hronek, Sandin out of the water
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.
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Not really . Chychrun is younger and can be signed from ages 26 to 34. Chabot is signed thru age 31 at 8 mill and soft defensiclry


Careful on the 2-years could realistically be within 2-days and TDL expiry if last few days are any indication!!!
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
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Canucks have/had the assets to have landed Chyc...

But we all know Hronek is the better asset management play LOL!!
Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:51 p.m.
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Best Deadline Ever. This has been fantastic.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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I'm sorry what? How the hell did teams not pay up for Chych, like Chychrun blows Orlov, Gavrikov, Hronek, Sandin out of the water


It's what happens when you spend the entire season dangling this trade over everyone's heads and none of the buyers were willing to meet your ask. They felt inclined to sell him after all the nonsense and panicked.

Ottawa was smart in waiting because the list of people who actually wanted and could fit Chychrun dropped fast.
Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.
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I'm sorry what? How the hell did teams not pay up for Chych, like Chychrun blows Orlov, Gavrikov, Hronek, Sandin out of the water


Well the one big concern with Chycrun be the injury history

Will be interesting to see how he does on his offside and if he can stay healthy

Also man Orlov has been a bloody steal for Boston they probs gonna extend this guy

3 GP 2 goals 3 assists....
Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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Quoting: A2023tdlGuesses
“Very clear now OTT not needing ARIZ to take money swung Chychrun in their favour”

-Friedman

How poor is this team?? I mean, damn.

If I’m Clayton Keller or Nick schmaltz I’m keeping a bag packed

(Or Lawson crouse plz thx)


I have a conspiracy theory that is the only possible explanation for why Arizona continues to exist as a franchise.
It is a Bettman created concept, with a team introduced into the league that's sole purpose is to influence changes in directions which only a team entity is able.

In order to enhance parity, Bettman uses the Coyotes to siphon off draft picks from good teams.
To give teams an outlet to remove contracts, he uses the Coyotes to absorb contracts which prevent actual teams from being competitive.
To influence the market, he has the Coyotes set the prices for transactions. How much it costs to dump cap, how much a rental player is worth, how much a good player should garner, etc.

Trying to bring the market back to a semblance of sanity, is the only explanation for Arizona selling off one of the most coveted available players in the league for essentially half price.
It's a splash of cold water on a fire that spread too quickly. He's using this trade to tell teams they went way overboard and need to re-evaluate for the remainder of the deadline and off-season when it comes to player values.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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Anyone want a Hextall? It’s a really useless GM that was once a psycho goalie. You can even get Leah’s commentary as an add on! All free, no charge!
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:09 p.m.
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Anyone want a Hextall? It’s a really useless GM that was once a psycho goalie. You can even get Leah’s commentary as an add on! All free, no charge!






He lives
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:09 p.m.
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Shayna the insider?
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: pinslack








Shayna the insider?


Wasn’t she the one who broke the Meier trade.

Poor Vlad
Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:18 p.m.
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this deadline is giving me whiplash man, i have no idea what anyone is valued anymore

tanner jeannot is worth an entire draft's worth of picks

jakob chychrun is worth less than Mattias Ekholm

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oh ok vlad namestnikov is getting traded, that feels comfortably familiar
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:18 p.m.
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Bye bye fair Teddy. You were fun for a bit.
Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
this deadline is giving me whiplash man, i have no idea what anyone is valued anymore

tanner jeannot is worth an entire draft's worth of picks

jakob chychrun is worth less than Mattias Ekholm



oh ok vlad namestnikov is getting traded, that feels comfortably familiar


Quoting: dannibalcorpse
this deadline is giving me whiplash man, i have no idea what anyone is valued anymore

tanner jeannot is worth an entire draft's worth of picks

jakob chychrun is worth less than Mattias Ekholm



oh ok vlad namestnikov is getting traded, that feels comfortably familiar


The truth is always that trade value is only as useful as two teams hold it to be. The fact that Ottawa and Arizona struck a deal for a better LHD at lesser value than Edmonton paid for Ekholm only means Edmonton was desperate for a big move and Arizona is Gary’s project to send message to the rest of the league.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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The NHL making the other sports deadlines look like a kids happy meal for once.

What an insane week. Idea who’s on who’s team anymore - and so many of the trades are just… ???????????

I love it.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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Tampa with that move now has 3mill in cap space.....

Pittsburgh also seems to be clearing cap

Man why do I get the feeling Bertuzzi gonna end up on one of these teams
 
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