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Starting the rebuild for the Flames

Created by: Maximus_Domi
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 13, 2023
Published: Sep. 13, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Some crazy trades here. Tried to help everyone! Don’t be too harsh 😂
Trades
1.
2.
CGY
  1. Evangelista, Luke
  2. Pärssinen, Juuso
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NSH)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (TBL)
NSH
  1. Huberdeau, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
3.
CGY
  1. Raymond, Lucas
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
4.
CGY
  1. Beecher, John
  2. Frederic, Trent
  3. Geekie, Morgan
  4. 2025 1st round pick (BOS)
  5. 2026 2nd round pick (BOS)
5.
6.
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
2026
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Logo of the BOS
Logo of the CGY
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$58,891,547$0$6,552,500$24,608,453
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$797,500$797,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$856,667$856,667
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
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Tank it baby
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Do you really believe Steve Yzerman is a moron?
Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Buffalo obviously isn't doing that

Edit: Holy crap I looked at the rest
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Buffalo declines
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: SharkTank
Do you really believe Steve Yzerman is a moron?

I regretted offering the 1st after I did it. Maybe Det isn’t the right trading partner for Mangi unless they retained some money
Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.
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I’m a firm believer that Huby was destroyed by Sutter and he will bounce back but holy that’s a colossal price don’t you think..?
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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what the...
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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Just no. Maybe on the leafs trade. Where to begin...

Sabres aren't trading Samuelsson or Krebs.

You overvalued Lindholm slightly. Make it a deadline deal with retention and maybe.

The Preds aren't in a position to trade away two firsts, much less for a fifty point player.

The Leafs don't want to give up Brodie, Niemela, or Jarnkrok.

On his own Raymond has almost double the value Mangiapane does. Adding a first is stupid.

If you're rebuilding, why would you trade two great prospects for a star prospect. IMO Cooley is only slightly better than Coronato, and you might as well keep him.
Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Maximus_Domi
I regretted offering the 1st after I did it. Maybe Det isn’t the right trading partner for Mangi unless they retained some money


More like Raymond isn't the right return for Mangi. He quite literally has more points in the last two seasons AND is 6 years younger AND is an RFA.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Prices so inflated you would think the Canadian government is running this hockey team sweet jesus
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Ennis
I’m a firm believer that Huby was destroyed by Sutter and he will bounce back but holy that’s a colossal price don’t you think..?


I agree, but how many years does the bounce back last before decline sets in though? It's a long contract.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: SharkTank
Do you really believe Steve Yzerman is a moron?


He has been in Detroit. On free agency day.
Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:05 p.m.
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Huby will rebound some. No way Calgary retains 5+ million for 8 years and no way Nashville pays that much when theyre retooling
Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: BUF10
He has been in Detroit. On free agency day.


Two bad signings definitely should outshine the dozens of other good signings. Hmm yes.
Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
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Mang last two seasons (26,27) total points at nearly 6 million - 55 pts and 43 points. 2 years left.

Raymond first two seasons (20,21) total points on a worse team on an ELC - 57 pts and 45 points. One more year on a budget, followed by a bridge or long term deal.

Detroit adds a pick in the teens to lose contract length, upside potential, money, and cap space…. All while getting the same production lol

Why?
Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: CoachCoach
Mang last two seasons (26,27) total points at nearly 6 million - 55 pts and 43 points. 2 years left.

Raymond first two seasons (20,21) total points on a worse team on an ELC - 57 pts and 45 points. One more year on a budget, followed by a bridge or long term deal.

Detroit adds a pick in the teens to lose contract length, upside potential, money, and cap space…. All while getting the same production lol

Why?


I was shocked to see this wasn't a NHLLGRW post.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I was shocked to see this wasn't a NHLLGRW post.


Woah woah, it’s ghost now lol
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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Woah woah, it’s ghost now lol


GhostGM92
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
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I'll take mangiapani but that isn't the deal
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
GhostGM92


He’d probably love this trade. He would have asked for Ruz or another big body though since he believes that’s how to be good.

Still can’t get past Raymond and and this year’s second for Foligno lol
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
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Takes talent to put out an ACGM where every post is telling you that you’re essentially outta your mind
Wow dude, these are bad
Yikes
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: CoachCoach
He’d probably love this trade. He would have ask for Ruz or another big body though since he believes that’s how to be good.

Still can’t get past Raymond and and this year’s second for Foligno lol


I remember when he first came onto this site. He's probably the inspiration behind this trade.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I remember when he first came onto this site. He's probably the inspiration behind this trade.


At least he now makes other team ACGMs so people stop associating him with Detroit lol
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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These are all over the shop. You give Nashville 35M in retention, but then rob Detroit blind. Just as an example.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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At least he now makes other team ACGMs so people stop associating him with Detroit lol


Yeah, but man when he does do Detroit its brutal. Dude offered a 2nd AND Ammo to get rid of Chiarot
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
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I'd like to point out too that although this is a rebuild the resulting team is as horrible as the trades. Take it from a sabres fan a tank needs a recovery plan and your not only aquiring players unrealisticly but your ruinning a lot of young talent here.
You should delete this and watch some hockey games, read a few articles, maybe look over a couple of rosters and see how long term out-look works. The issues here are so much deeper than the absurd trades.
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