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Created by: Sidstick87

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: May 2, 2020

Published: May 4, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

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** THIS IS HOW ALL - CAP FRIENDLY - ARMCHAIR GM's TEAMS SHOULD BE MADE **

- A complete & Entire Team Breakdown ~ Like a REAL GM [Altho I just have to bc of my A.D.D. & have to breakdown everything, LOL]

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THE 2020 ~ 2021 NHL SEASON :

*** NEW CAP RULE *** ------- With CAP only going up to $82m

~ ALL NHL TEAMS : Get [1] Compliance & Complete CAP - BUY - OUT :
All team's must pay player their remaining salary owed to the normal Rules of "Buy-Out" but ALL Monies owed will [NOT] count against Cap.

For CAP Buy-Out ~ PENGUINS select :
~ LHD- J. Johnson #3 ~ $3.25m ---- {Put on LTIR to Show for Buy-Out}

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****** 3 - TEAM TRADE "BREAK-Dahn" ******* ~ Pittsburgh - Nashville - Chicago ~

PENS GET :
~ R/LW- F. Forsberg #9 ------------- Forsberg is a fav player of mine & love how he plays a physical & Skilled game. He becomes a Top 5 Wing w/ 87 or 71 at C. {+ He already hates WSH!!!}
~ C/W- C. Sissons #10 -------------- Sissons is a perfect 3C for Pens - 26, locked up @ decent Cap hit, good on PK, great 2-way & face-off guy, + is RH (Which Sully loves)

HAWKS GET :
~ G - M. Murray #30 --------------- A 25-26yr old 2- Time Cup winner + Hawks need a Top Goalie w/ UFA Crawford at 35.
~ RW/C- N. Bjugstad #27 ----------- Juggs had core surgery but is a Top 6 RW or #2-#3 C & playing for a contract (Motivated). Played great at 3C for Pens at end of last yr but had {bad luck} shooting %.
~ 2021 - 2nd Round Pick [PIT] --- *CONDITIONAL PICK* - (Depending on Bjugstad gm's played)

PREDS GET :
~ L/RW- B. Saad #20 ---------------- Saad is one of the most under rated wingers in NHL, Does everything very great. * Brings a Cup winner to a team that has been snake bit.
~ RW- A. Nylander #92 ----------- Nylander is only 22 still & in 1st full season. Ultra high skill (when he figures it out) - Could be a steal.
~ LHD- J. Riikola #50 [RFA] ------- Riikola is #5-#7 D-man who never got a fair chance w/ Pens. + his Lytics are great.

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~~~~ ALL PENGUIN SIGNING's ~~~~~

PENs Players - signed at End of 19' - 20' Season :
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~ LW/C- J. McCann #19 ----------- $7.5m over 3yrs ------- $2.5m Per ------ McCann settles for a lil less $ for stability
~ G- T. Jarry #35 ------------------- $6.75m over 3yrs ------- $2.25m Per ---- Jarry is the 1A now going forward
~ RHD- J. Schultz #4 --------------- $2m over 1yr ----------- $2m Per --------- Schultz comes back on a prove it deal after down yr + w/ the uncertain quick start of 20-21 Season.

PENS Sign - [2] players - who get (Bought Out) "OR" just (UFA's) :
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~ G- M-A. Fleury #29 ----------- $3m over 2yrs --------- $1.5m Per ---------------- (Sid gets back his plane seat partner)
~ LW- Z. Parise #11 ------------- $1.5m over 1yr --------- $1.5m Per --------------- Parise - Still has a good 60-65 game reg. season left + Playoff Run. {*Parise wants a Cup bad*}
~ LHD- D. Forbort #24 -------- $1.25m over 1yr -------- $1.25m Per ------------- Forbort was injured all last yr but if healthy - This is a steal for a guy that has played Top pairing Min.
~ G- S. Starrett #40 ------------ $1.5m over 2yrs ------- $750, Per ---------------- Starrett still only 25 would be a good Depth Goalie

[RFA's] Signed in 2020 Off-Season :
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~ C/RW- S. Lafferty #37 ------- $1.5m over 2yrs ---------- $750, Per ----------- Lafferty is a perfect #13 - #14 Forward
~ RW/C- A. Angello #57 ------- $1.5m over 2yrs ---------- $750, Per ----------- Angello is a big depth guy
~ LW- S. Miletic #80 ----------- $1.5m over 2yrs ---------- $750, Per ----------- Miletic could start to see NHL time after another good AHL yr
~ G- A. Hill #31 ---------------- $1.7m over 2yrs ---------- $850, Per ----------- ** 1st yr of contract is a 2- way Deal** - (like Jarry's Deal was in 17')
~ RHD- N. Juulsen #56 --------- $1.7m over 2yrs ---------- $850, Per ----------- Letang Jr. - Love this kid

[RFA's] Signed - *NOT Tendered by Team w/ in 19'-20' : {For Depth}
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~ C- J. DeLa Rose #23 ---------- $900, over 1yr ------- $900, Per ---------- Rose is a nice Defensive Center, good face-off guy, & a quality call-up Player
~ RHD- M. Bowey #74 --------- $900, over 1yr ------- $900, Per ---------- Bowey was waived & is still a younger solid RHD-man

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Must - Do - To - PENGUIN Team - List : [For 2020 Off-Season]
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************************* My 2020 - 2021 PITTSBURGH PENGUINS TEAM ******************************

* [1] ~ Add [1] Legit Top R-H RWer = * F. FORSBERG #9 * -------- To Fix Left-Wall & option for entries on PP & To give Geno a legit Star on wing at this stage of Career.

* [2] ~ Add as much "DEPTH" as possible w/ Extreme # of games for Combined LONG back to back seasons bc of Coronis Virus.
--------------------- NEED - (15-16 ) - Legit NHL Forwards / (8-9) - NHL "capable" D-men / (3) - NHL Quality Goalies

* [3] ~ ADD - later Round Draft PICK's [3rd to 7th Rdrs] - "to re-trade" {For long back to back seasons} OR "to trade up in 20' Draft" {Into 2nd Rd for a falling Top player}

* [4] ~ Convince Veteran Players in NHL who get "Special Buy-Out" For 2020 Off-season :
---------- To come to Pens for the last couple years of [The Core 3] of ~ 87 / 71 / 58 ~ [Parise & Flower]

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MY PENGUIN ROSTER ~ BREAK-Dahn :
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FORWARDS :

Line - 1A ~~~~ 59 - 87 - 16 ~~~~~~~ Seriously?? The GOAT w/ his sidekick Jake & now w/ Zuckers Speed - Wow
Line - 2B ~~~~ 19 - 71 - 9 ~~~~~~~~ Geno & Forsberg w/ the speedy / snipping Cann-Can
Line - 3A ~~~~ 11 - 10 - 17 ~~~~~~~ Parise & Rusty on a 3rd Line?? LOL, w/ the under-rated Sissons @ Center
Line - 3B ~~~~ 13 - 53 - 72 ~~~~~~~ Horny is not a 4th liner but he wouldn't care & adds scoring to 3B

- Scratches ~~~~~~~ #49 / #37 ~~~~~~~~ Jones & Lafferty make this a Deep & versatile Team

- 1st Call - Ups : C- J. De La Rose #23 / RW- A. Angello #57 / LW- D. O'Conner #__ / C/LW- J. Bellerive #64 / LW- S. Miletic #80 / LW- K. Bjorkqvist #20 / LW- F. Hallander #__ / **LW- S. Poulin #22 [Jrs??]

~~ [OR] ~~
59 - 87 - 11
16 - 71 - 9
17 - 19 - 72 ~~~~~ McCann is a very good C but IMO he could be a Great LWer
53/49 - 10 - 13

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DEFENSEMAN :

Pair #1 ~~~~ 8 - 58 ~~~~~~~ A Top 3 Top Pairing in NHL
Pair #2 ~~~~ 28 - 6 ~~~~~~~ Both of these players haven't even reached their best Hockey yet w/ both at 22-23yrs old
Pair #3 ~~~~ 76 - 4 ~~~~~~~ Schultzy coming back for cheap solves a big hole & Mahura is a stud

- Scratches ~~ #24 / #56 ~~~~~ 24-Forbort is too good to be a #7 & 56-Juulsen pushes Schultzy for 3rd RHD spot

- 1st Call - Ups : RHD- M. Bowey #74 / LHD- P-O. Joseph #73 / RHD- Z. Trotman #5

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GOALIES :

~ G- 1A- #35 ~~~~~~~~ Jarry is Ready for it.
~ G- 1B- #29 ~~~~~~~~ Flower comes back for 30-35 games

~ 3rd G- #31 ~~~~~~~~ A. Hill (M. Murrray Jr.) will be pressuring Jarry for starts in 21'-22'

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Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan	3	$2,250,000
McCann, Jared	3	$2,500,000
Lafferty, Sam	2	$750,000
Angello, Anthony	2	$750,000
Hill, Adin	2	$850,000
Juulsen, Noah	2	$850,000
De La Rose, Jacob	1	$900,000
Miletic, Sam	2	$750,000
Bowey, Madison	1	$900,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Schultz, Justin	1	$2,000,000
Forbort, Derek	1	$1,250,000
Starrett, Shane	2	$750,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Fleury, Marc-Andre		2	$1,500,000
Parise, Zach		1	$1,500,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
De La Rose, Jacob	$900,000	No Compensation
Bowey, Madison	$900,000	No Compensation

Trades

PIT

Additional Details:

* START OF 3 - TEAM TRADE *
~ Pittsburgh - Chicago - Nashville ~
[Breakdown in Description Part]

CHI

Bjugstad, Nick
Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

* CONDITIONAL PICK *
2021 2nd Round Pick (PIT)

~ ONLY If Bjugstad plays in 80% or less of Season. [66 games or less in 82 game season]
~ PICK is Returned to PIT - If Bjugstad plays in more than 80% of Season. [67 games or more in 82 game season]

PIT

NSH

Additional Details:

* END OF 3 - TEAM TRADE *
~ Pittsburgh - Chicago - Nashville ~
[Breakdown in Description Part]

PIT

Hill, Adin [RFA Rights]
2020 4th round pick (ARI)
2021 4th round pick (ARI)

Additional Details:

-Adin Hill will be a NHL Starting Goalie. The 6'-5" Raw Goalie reminds me of Matt Murray.
- GMJR gets a cpl of picks to re-trade, lol

ARI

Additional Details:

- HCRT knows how good ZAR is & how he is the best Defensive Forward in NHL.
- Ruhwedel is a great #7 RHD-man

PIT

Jones, Max
Mahura, Josh
2021 3rd round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

Pens get [2] younger & cheaper guys that I really like, that also can be sent down if needed - (for Depth)

~ I love M. Jones - goes 100mph & has a physical side that the Pens need.
~ Have been a fan of Mahura's since JR's w/ Red Deer & Regina. IMO - he is def ready for NHL starting time.

ANA

Rodrigues, Evan [RFA Rights]
Simon, Dominik [RFA Rights]
2021 7th round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

- Simon & E-Rod are def the better players in deal but Pens prob can't afford them rite now being RFA's

PIT

Juulsen, Noah [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

- Juulsen has had some concussion issues but I still think this kid has too much upside to not take a chance.
- A RHD-man, French Canadian, that wears #58 - (sound familiar)

MTL

DeSmith, Casey

Additional Details:

- DeSmith is still a great back-up but is in AHL bc we have 2- great goalies.
- Gives Primeau more time to play in AHL

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,000,000	$79,865,651	$0	$982,500	$2,134,349

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
McCann, Jared $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Forsberg, Filip $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW UFA - 2
Parise, Zach $1,500,000$1,500,000	Sissons, Colton $2,857,143$2,857,143 C, RW UFA - 6	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1
	Schultz, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $2,250,000$2,250,000 G UFA - 3
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD UFA - 5		Fleury, Marc-Andre $1,500,000$1,500,000
Mahura, Josh $745,000$745,000 ($132,500$132K) LD/RD RFA - 1
Forbort, Derek $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Jones, Max $863,333$863,333 LW, RW RFA - 1		Johnson, Jack $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 1
Juulsen, Noah $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Forsberg, F.		Guentzel, J.		Crosby, S.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Power Play 2
Parise, Z.		Hörnqvist, P.		Zucker, J.
	Marino, J.		McCann, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Letang, K.	Dumoulin, B.
	Tanev, B.	Blueger, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Marino, J.	Pettersson, M.
	Rust, B.	Sissons, C.

May 4, 2020 at 6:08 p.m.

Sidstick87

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May 4, 2020 at 6:10 p.m.

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I don’t like the lines but I’d love this as a pens fan

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May 4, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

I don’t like the lines but I’d love this as a pens fan

What would u do??
Im a big Sissons as 3rd C guy... he is a very good C & takes almost all important face-offs for Preds but isnt listed as C?? bc of all the other C's they have.

May 4, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

I don’t like the lines but I’d love this as a pens fan

Could u imagine how mad WSH fans would be if we got Forsberg?? LOL... OMG, Just a dream of mine

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May 4, 2020 at 6:15 p.m.

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Forsberg is by far the best player in that trade, Preds get bent over here

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May 4, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.

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Pens wins that 3-way trade by a landslide.

Also those signings are way too much in their favor.

I respect the effort you've put to this, but it's too much of wishful thinking. No realism put here.

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May 4, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.

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Quoting: Sidstick87

What would u do??
Im a big Sissons as 3rd C guy... he is a very good C & takes almost all important face-offs for Preds but isnt listed as C?? bc of all the other C's they have.

Sissons is a center, but also plays wing. NSH also has Johansen, Duchene, Turris, Bonino & Jarnkrok down the middle as well.

That being said, NSH rejects the proposal. Preds are getting shafted harder here than they were by the officiating in the 2017 Cup finals.

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May 4, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.

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Coming from a Rangers fan, I like it. You definitely might need to add something for Nashville to pull the trigger on that trade, but I really appreciate the breakdowns and explanations. This clearly shows that this has been thought out and the team would be pretty filthy (only downside as a Rangers fan of course). Great job! applaud

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May 4, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.

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Quoting: gmgb

Don’t even go there lol. After that blown whistle EVERY call went to the preds advantage as NHL officials love to “even out” officiating after a bad call

May 4, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.

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These trades all heavily favor the penguins, and overall is far too optimistic.

Where some of the ideas are good, the players you are sending are valued too high vs the return you are getting. The UFA contracts for Parise, Schultz, Fleury and Jarry are all at least a million underpaid. Fleury is the only one on that list I could see taking that large of a discount to play here.

May 4, 2020 at 7:01 p.m.

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Quoting: justaBoss

Pens wins that 3-way trade by a landslide.

Also those signings are way too much in their favor.

I respect the effort you've put to this, but it's too much of wishful thinking. No realism put here.

Exactly this. I respect the massive amount of time placed into making this thread, but really all of these words seem to go as a debate to convince the other teams why the penguins players should be worth twice their value. It's too optimistic to be realistic.

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May 4, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

Don’t even go there lol. After that blown whistle EVERY call went to the preds advantage as NHL officials love to “even out” officiating after a bad call

Given Nashville's injuries and how badly Laviolette was out-coached, the Pens probably would have won anyway. But with Sissons getting robbed of two important goals (games 1&6), Crosby getting away with ramming Pk's head into the ice, throwing a water bottle on the ice (should be an automatic penalty, regardless of intent), etc. it was like watching the Montreal Screwjob all over again.

May 4, 2020 at 10:52 p.m.

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Amazing team man!

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May 5, 2020 at 9:32 a.m.

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Quoting: justaBoss

Pens wins that 3-way trade by a landslide.

Also those signings are way too much in their favor.

I respect the effort you've put to this, but it's too much of wishful thinking. No realism put here.

I actually agree with u about Pens winning all trades & signings but I dont think Im too far off on most of trades bc Saad was traded for Breadman, so u never really kno?

- My signings of Flower , Parise, & Schultzy were all just wishes tho, lol

May 5, 2020 at 9:39 a.m.

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Quoting: gmgb

How can u say the Preds got shafted in Cup Finals??

The only call the Pens didn't get was how - Crosby cleary double dribbled Subbans head behind the net & got away with 1 there, lol

May 5, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.

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Quoting: Wqrrior

Which trade? I think the trades are close but the signings of Parise, Flower, & Schultz are all a wish.

NSH / CHI Trade - A 25 yr old, 2-time Cup winning Starting Goalie mite have some good value? No?
- Just bc Bjugstad was hurt, doesnt mean he isnt a good player still?
Saad did get traded for Breadman too, so not far fetched?

ARZ Trade - I prob lost that trading the best Defensive Forward in NHL but I am a fan of Hill

ANA trade - Ducks get the better players (rite now) & Pens take risk on 2 young players (that I really like) but will they play or become starters ??
Jones & Mahura both 22-23 yrs old & 1st & 3rd rdrs BUT both have been sent back to AHL this yr & still cant hold down spots on a bad team ... So u never kno?

MTL Trade - a RFA with concussion problems for a cheap Back up Goalie??

May 5, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.

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Quoting: Sidstick87

True but Saad had more term and had a great season before that and also CHI weren't sure about whether they could afford Panarin or not.

May 5, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.

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Quoting: justaBoss

True but Saad had more term and had a great season before that and also CHI weren't sure about whether they could afford Panarin or not.

Ur Rite about the term, he does only have 1 yr left... I just realized that

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May 5, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.

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Quoting: gmgb

It really is funny when ppl cry about when Sid dribbled Subbans head & him throwing a water bottle
WHEN
Sid has taken more abuse than any other player in NHL in last 15yrs

May 5, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.

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Quoting: Sidstick87

It's not nearly as close as you think. You've got NSH giving up their most skilled forward and a solid does a bit of everything forward they've made a long term commitment to, for one year of a winger who's not as good as Forsberg, two years older, and comes with the same cap hit. Plus a prospect who's already washed out of one organization, and has a high probability of busting, & a fringe bottom pair D.

Quoting: Sidstick87

It really is funny when ppl cry about when Sid dribbled Subbans head & him throwing a water bottle
WHEN
Sid has taken more abuse than any other player in NHL in last 15yrs

It really is funny when ppl cry about Crosby being able to get away with anything he wants because he takes abuse just like every star player in every sport. Crysby has dished out more cheap shots than he's taken, and gotten away with it his whole career. The guy can spear someone in the groin, or hack a player's finger off, but the only discipline he's ever faced is when he skipped an All Star game.

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