Not giving up Berggren or veleno was big, hate to see kubby go. But they have enough to convince kane. Not saying it is going to happen but.... if you can convince him now that Cat is here. He wouldn't cost as much as people think.

Pierre Dorion got what he deserved, if you trade for a player (especially US born) make sure you have a long term contract before you pull the trigger

It’s a fair deal and along the lines of what we’ve marked it as for a long time now

Hey you remember how Sens fans kept insisting that they'd get a dragon haul for Cat, and got really angry when you told them to temper expectations?

Good times.

For example from this Thread







Anyway I actually think Dorian did alright for the situation - but it's still a clear win for DET - especially with limiting the deal to 4 years.

I think he’s going to Buffalo. Cause who wouldn’t want to play with a basketball player. Jokic ain’t got nothing on Thompson.

A 20 goal scorer, a 1st, a 4th, and a B prospect for a 40 goal scorer. Depends what you value more, but I like the math for both teams

I mean if you really think about it. It’s somewhat similar value to what they paid for him to begin with. They get a first that has the potential to be in the mid 15-25 range in a decent draft. They get Kubalik who is probably valued around a late first, early second round pick with his low cap hit, they get Sonrango who was a third round pick in 2020 and was great in the world juniors. Then they get a fourth which closes the gap even more.

yeah.... you are acting a bit pathetic...

Fair, I had not seen any rumors for Kane up to this point. So I am purely just speculating. But given the chemistry kane and cat had, I also imagine he wants to get paid and play for a potential winner. Wings have both but so does buffalo so dealers choice I suppose

Imo that's a huge stretch.

14. Donovan Sebrango, LHD, 21 (Grand Rapids Griffins)
It has been a bit of an up-and-down year for Sebgrango. I thought he started the year strong in Grand Rapids, but when he hit a rough patch and then got caught in the numbers game, he was sent to the ECHL, it took him some time to find his presence there (he can play with a lot of presence — a hard thing to describe — when he’s playing firm and aggressive), but he found it and had an excellent January and I expect you’ll see him back in Grand Rapids before the season is done.

He’s a physical, hard-nosed defender who has driven defensive results across levels without ever being a highly productive player. There are times when his first touch isn’t the smoothest and I’d like him to make the long play instead of the rushed one under pressure, but I don’t think he needs to change his game to be effective and I get the sense he doesn’t care to (he trusts in who he is out there). He plays a step-up style. His skating and mobility has gone from below NHL average to at it. He makes consistently choices with the puck, he’s capable of stretching the ice as an outlet passer, he blocks every shot he can, I like the routes he takes, and there’s a maturity to his game that might push him into No. 6-7 role eventually, even if this year feels like a “setback.”

It’s similar to what the market was originally set. Also there were a ton of factors not in the Sens favour. It’s a solid deal from both sides. Especially if both teams addressed needs which they did.

Oh no. The ****ty takes who called everyone else stupid got exposed for being ****ty. Wont someone think of the children.

I think you're just scared it'll happen to you

It's a terrible deal for the sens but good job Yzerman. They traded a guy who from 20-25 has scored more points and more goals than anyone in the entire red wings organization (total or per game) over the same time period for a later first, a meh prospect, and a middle six winger without term. Wow

Not giving up Berggren or veleno was big, hate to see kubby go. But they have enough to convince kane. Not saying it is going to happen but.... if you can convince him now that Cat is here. He wouldn't cost as much as people think.

Salvage a disaster. The problem existed when you traded, got him, and didn't want to make him key component - you gave monies to Giroux and Stutzle. Shame on you. You want me to be happy because your division competitors dictate whether you can have Boston's 25 first round pick or Detroit's 2024 and your competitor who's trying for the same playoff spots get to decide.??? What a Joke.