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Seider what would it take

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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 19, 2023
Published: Jul. 19, 2023
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Detroit fans - assuming marner and Matthews aren’t included what would you accept in a package for Seider?
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Nothing you offer can even come close to getting Seider
Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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Yeah maybe keep the dreams for bed time
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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Thanks for the helpful reply. Such a nonsense comment.
Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
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Dermott, Bracco, 2nd
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:21 p.m.
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You have nothing to get you seider
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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Seider is the foundation piece, there version of hedman in the yzerplan, if he doesn’t hit elite status, the plan is scrapped and they start again, he’s not moved til they figure that out though, so it’s a few years
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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Wouldn't even trade him if Marner and Matthews were part of the trade. No chance at all.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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Dermott, Bracco, 2nd


Give me Sparks or give me death.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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Thanks for the helpful reply. Such a nonsense comment.


nonsense posts will receive nonsense comments
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
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An Act of God
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.
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Quoting: djmbrown
Thanks for the helpful reply. Such a nonsense comment.


Do you expect that Seider, a top 20 defenseman at 22 y/o (and bound to get better), can be acquired that cheap?
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:37 p.m.
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Nothing
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:42 p.m.
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The package to get Seider would be so absurd, that it doesn't matter. Seider is as untouchable as any one in the league. Think Matthews or Marner when they were still on their entry level contract. That is what you would be looking at.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.
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It’s amazing how many actual GMs are on here. My bad. I didn’t realize you all had your fingers on the pulse of the league. So I guess 10 first round picks wouldn’t do it? 30? I posed a question, didn’t post a stupidly one-sided deal. If you don’t want to be real then just don’t reply and go back to your moms basement. K champ
Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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It’s amazing how many actual GMs are on here. My bad. I didn’t realize you all had your fingers on the pulse of the league. So I guess 10 first round picks wouldn’t do it? 30? I posed a question, didn’t post a stupidly one-sided deal. If you don’t want to be real then just don’t reply and go back to your moms basement. K champ


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Jul. 19, 2023 at 8:57 p.m.
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Honestly...the leafs dont have anybody worth trading Seider for.

Sure Mathews is currently a much bigger star, but, given his contract demands I'd prefer the younger franchise dman vs the older franchise center.

Outside Mathews, nobody else comes close
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Oasiswings
Honestly...the leafs dont have anybody worth trading Seider for.

Sure Mathews is currently a much bigger star, but, given his contract demands I'd prefer the younger franchise dman vs the older franchise center.

Outside Mathews, nobody else comes close


That’s a fair post. I wondered what Detroit fans thought about him in regards to the rest of the league. I’d love the player and honestly would ask for a lot. But I wondered how interested Detroit would be in Nylander signed, Liljegren, and a couple firsts. I mean anyone can be dealt in this day and age.
Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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That’s a fair post. I wondered what Detroit fans thought about him in regards to the rest of the league. I’d love the player and honestly would ask for a lot. But I wondered how interested Detroit would be in Nylander signed, Liljegren, and a couple firsts. I mean anyone can be dealt in this day and age.


That would be the baseline for sure. Nylander for 9 years at no more than 9m a year + Lily (who has top 4 D potential) and 2 x 1st (unprotected). Detroit would probably still pass though since they view Sieder as a potential future Norris candidate.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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I just don’t see any team trading a player like seider so not surprised at the feedback. I may be in the minority but not totally sold on him - time will tell. Could be bias - leafs have owned the wings past few years - but he doesn’t strike me as a Norris winner one day 🤷🏻
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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That would be the baseline for sure. Nylander for 9 years at no more than 9m a year + Lily (who has top 4 D potential) and 2 x 1st (unprotected). Detroit would probably still pass though since they view Sieder as a potential future Norris candidate.


Ya it’s probably a deal that can’t happen then as I’m sure the value he is to the wings is too much for the leafs to give up. Just wasn’t sure what the thought was from the Wing fans.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:49 p.m.
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Fans on here are going to overrate him based on his rookie season. He’s a good defenceman, yes. But he wasn’t that great in his second season so there’s still a lot of question marks.

Value isn’t the question. He likely isn’t available because Detroit just doesn’t have anyone to replace him.
Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:49 p.m.
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Thanks for the helpful reply. Such a nonsense comment.


Maybe you can answer your own question. Seider is under Wings contract for five more season. Seider looks like he's going to a top RHD in the league.
The Leafs have absolutely nothing the Wings would want.
Any thought of a "signed Nylander or whoever....non sensical.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:51 p.m.
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
Fans on here are going to overrate him based on his rookie season. He’s a good defenceman, yes. But he wasn’t that great in his second season so there’s still a lot of question marks.

Value isn’t the question. He likely isn’t available because Detroit just doesn’t have anyone to replace him.


Less question marks than you think. In the month or so period where this team wasn't tanking and he wasn't on a line with Chiarot, he looked phenomenal.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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You got what you deserved. Stop crying about it. I didn't know you were a GM either Captain Hypocrite. Better hurry champ. Mommy says your meatloaf is ready. Hope you're not the next Dahmer living in the basement.


This is just classless kid. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion on this site - it’s a forum site that’s based off opinions and interactions. But comments like yours are not helpful one bit. I hope you get banned for **** like this. It’s not the first time you’ve been arrogant like this. Grow up.
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Jul. 19, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.
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Less question marks than you think. In the month or so period where this team wasn't tanking and he wasn't on a line with Chiarot, he looked phenomenal.


Tons of question marks. Has a phenomenal rookie year, then follows it up with a questionable second year. Nothing guarantees he’s the guy from the 1st year - nothing also guarantees he’s the guy from the second year. But fans on here immediately jump to his 1st year success and deem him untouchable and McDavid level value because of it. I can personally tell you, it would take a lot to move him but he is absolutely not untouchable.
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