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(OTT/TBL) - Gáborík, Nilsson for Coburn, Paquette

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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:10
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:11
#2
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Good and fair deal for both sides. Ottawa picks up another top-64 pick and gets a little over 2M in real dollar savings. Tampa gets help with their cap crunch for this season.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:11
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Dorian forgot to give Armstrong and JBB Christmas presents per Darren
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:13
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Way to weaponize that cap space, Ottawa. You managed to get marginally better despite almost the whole league being in cap hell. Good for Coburn though. He'll probably reach 1,000 games now.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:13
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A fair deal imo - Ottawa really is going all in. The pick helps.
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:15
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So OTT gets that 2nd rounder back from the Stepan trade. So what was the point of this entire exercise, besides making Tampa better?
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:15
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Ladies and gentelmen - this is it. Finally the time has come to an end. No more Tyler Johnson to Detroit for Zetterberg trade proposals!
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:16
#8
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Coburn won't waive his NTC lol

A wise move from both teams imo.
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:18
#9
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Good job recouping the 2nd from the Stepan deal. Coburn is a good vet, but if these guys are going to play there are basically no spots left for young players, in a year that development matters more than the team being good.
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:20
#10
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This will give Tampa a 21-man roster under the salary cap. Best case scenario under the circumstances.
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:21
#11
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Now this is a good deal for Ottawa. Getting a second round pick for two cheap expirings? Job well done. If they want, they can even flip them later for more picks.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:28
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Yikes... Ottawa continues to take on salary while not even getting better. At least the 2nd round pick helps.
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:31
#13
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Ottawa wins they get a pick, a good 4th liner and a decent defenceman for 2 LTIR contracts
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:33
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Its pretty mint.
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Tampa Bay clears cap, good deal for them.

Ottawa gets a 2nd, a 4C, and a 7th D. Surprising that Coburn would waive his NTC to go to Ottawa.

If the Gaborik & Nilsson contracts are insured, this is just a contract limit inclusion. If they aren’t insured, Ottawa saves money and the Bolts flex their financial muscle to get the deal done.
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:35
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Ottawa wins they get a pick, a good 4th liner and a decent defenceman for 2 LTIR contracts

And opens cap space to help the bolts
Make another cup run
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:52
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Sens lose some dead money (Gaborik’s 80% insured and obviously never playing again, so about $615k actual dollars saved), plus Nilsson, who is still fighting concussion issues (not sure if he’ll play again at this point) for two cheap guys who are still solid NHLers on expiring deals that should garner interest at the deadline and bring in more picks (Paquette’s young enough to maybe be worth keeping as a 4C for a few years too). Plus a 2nd of course. At the end of the day it’s two cheap NHLers and a 2nd for two LTIR contracts, both of which will probably not play for the Lightning this year. Dunno how this can be seen as anything but a win for Ottawa, a 2nd is a hefty price to dump two guys making a combined 3.35mil (2nd allowed NYR to dump the 5.7mil Staal) and they dumped some actual dollars for guys who won’t play in the process.
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Dec 27, 2020 at 8:58
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Something happened woo
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Dec 27, 2020 at 9:05
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Tampa now has $17M on LTIR. Are you kidding me?
Dec 27, 2020 at 9:22
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Back to back seasons of the Sens dumping their overpaid 3rd string goalie to Tbay, Condon and now Nilsson.
Dec 27, 2020 at 9:22
#20
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Yikes... Ottawa continues to take on salary while not even getting better. At least the 2nd round pick helps.


They moved effectively nothing to get better on the PK and defensive depth. How is this a bad trade for them.

It's a win for hockey because Ottawa is actually spending money.
Dec 27, 2020 at 9:29
#21
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I'm genuinely sad that Paquette got traded. He was one of my favorite TBL players and I even bought his shirsey during the playoffs.
Dec 27, 2020 at 9:35
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Gabby for the HOF.....1000+ games, 400+ goals, 800+ points and 1 Cup ring.
Dec 27, 2020 at 9:44
#23
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Quoting: Rangsey
They moved effectively nothing to get better on the PK and defensive depth. How is this a bad trade for them.

It's a win for hockey because Ottawa is actually spending money.


It's bad because they should be able to get more for taking on cap space. Ottawa gets better, but it doesn't change the fact that they are nowhere close to a playoff team
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Dec 27, 2020 at 9:58
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Tampa Bay clears cap, good deal for them.

Ottawa gets a 2nd, a 4C, and a 7th D. Surprising that Coburn would waive his NTC to go to Ottawa.

If the Gaborik & Nilsson contracts are insured, this is just a contract limit inclusion. If they aren’t insured, Ottawa saves money and the Bolts flex their financial muscle to get the deal done.


Gaborik is insured but Nilsson isn't. So the Sens (Melnyk) save having to pay his contract)
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Dec 27, 2020 at 10:15
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Question: How does this help Tampa's cap situation? They're $17M over the cap right now. Isn't there a limit to how much salary they can place on LTIR? Otherwise, what would stop a team from taking every other teams' bad contracts in exchange for other assets?
 
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